The SL has more complexity to it. Next Last. 2 cents, please. elephantman, August 17, 2007 in Electric Guitars. The Burstbuckers are brighter and have more clarity but the SL's have that classic buttery PAF tone that we all know and love. But now I have a Epiphone Les Paul Custom Ltd Edition Silverburst on order. Nothing but blue sky. The Seth Lover neck model gives you a smooth but articulate tone by striking the perfect balance of warm, full low end and a nice sweet treble. I'm thinking about changing pickups in my Hamer Artist. And I really like 'em cause they have this great midrange growl to 'em that's great for classic rock (bridge pickup). Thread: Gibson Burstbucker Pro VS Seymour duncan Seth Lover SH-55. Frustrating part is a bought a set years ago but have never decided which would be the best axe to put them in. So the ’57 Classic is true to how Seth designed the PAF pickup. Clones and they are the best I have ever had. Seth Lovers Vs Burstbucker Pros. Apr 21, 2017 #21. Art310. I have 2 sets of them. Hey Guys, Just curious to know the sonic differrences between the two. Even before it arrived I was planning to change the pickups. For neck pickups, I could easily live with the 57 Classic, the Seth Lover or the BB1. View Profile View Forum … Which do you like better? The Seth Lovers are P.A.F. Show Printable Version; Email this Page… 14-01-09, 06:38 PM #1. teleplayer. They are both Mahogany with a pretty thick Maple cap. Next Last. B. billyjett Member. lol.. This pickup works awesome with clean tones and mid gain tones. Paste as plain text instead, × They are so smooth and responsive it's like playing with sounds that have a life of their own. Buy New. Joined: May 6, 2012 Location: England. They're primo vintage PAF tone, very warm, mellow and 'tubular,' due to the Alnico II magnets. Incidentally, my LP has a 57 classic in the neck position, and it's just pure classic LP tone. Display as a link instead, × By Seymour W. Duncan and Seth Lover. Nothing but blue sky. The SL seems to have more character and reward me with a variety of sounds I couldn't get from the BBs. This is the second set I have bought. thx) 05-30-2018, 02:29 PM #18. i did a search and came up with … It has the stock Burstbucker Pros. These are all pickups I fully enjoy, but for favorite bridge HBs, I'd completely sold on the Seth Lover. Posts: 1,740. Fortunately, I didn't need the body of the guitar cut but the wiring job was odd and cost me $100. Buy Used. Antiquity vs Seth Lover vs Burstbucker 1 & 2. equalsql Frets: 4221 . View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Articles Senior Member User Info Menu. Clear editor. Classic '57 fan here. SO Ive narrowed it down to either Gibby Burstbuckers, or SD Seth Lovers. Art310. Fairly low output, so they don't balance well volume wise with a lot of other pickups. I think it's vibe is to have a little more on tap, but maybe not always use it. The Seth Lover vintage output humbucker pickups are the perfect choice for players wanting to transform a solid body or semi hollow into a singing classic rock machine. Guitar Pickups. Thanks in advance, Derek . They have really vintage honk. The Seth Lover neck model gives you a smooth but articulate tone by striking the perfect balance of warm, full low-end and a nice sweet treble. Go. For the bridge pickups, I think the 57 Classic and the BB2 are both a tiny bit hotter than the Seth Lover, but not a radical difference. × Powered by Invision Community. But maybe the trick is just rolling off some tone. Gibson Burstbucker Pro VS Seymour duncan Seth Lover SH-55; Page 1 of 4 1 2 3... Last. It has Seths in it now, and I'm wondering what difference the BB's would make. DaveGrima, December 23, 2010 in Electric Guitars. Seems that a lot of humbuckers just sound muddy to me. The bridge pickup has a lot of similarities to the original ’59 that Duncan offers, but it’s more harmonically rich and fatter. It's the only bridge humbucker I've ever owned that I play clean on the bridge pickup by itself. Not a big Seth Lover. Joined: Jul 30, 2013 Messages: 318 Likes Received: 119. RE: Burstbucker or 498T: Kato IP: Logged Status: Intermediate Member Posts: 305 Join Date: 3/29/2004: What about the Seymour Duncan Seth Lover humbuckers? But from my BB Pro experience and reads on the Seth Lover, I think the BB Pros will provide a bit more bitey bright edginess to them. Jump to page: Results 1 to 10 of 34 Thread: Gibson Burstbucker Pro VS Seymour duncan Seth Lover SH-55. I have the BB3 in a LP Studio w BFG Electronics and a Joan Jett MM. By way Thread starter billyjett; Start date Aug 31, 2013; 1; 2; Next. Thread starter dkbarnwell; Start date Oct 3, 2011; 1; 2; Next. Discussion in 'Electric Instruments' started by rumblebox, Nov 26, 2013. rumblebox New Member.   You cannot paste images directly. I guess what I'm saying is part of me thinks the Seth Lovers, although they have a great rep and my luthier says it's one of his faves, they might not be the best vintage choice for my most rare of Gibbys. Clear editor. It sounds kinda dull with its stock pups in it. By It has a complexity even clean that the other two don't have. Burstbuckers are a lot hotter, higher output, more edgy. A lot of that may depend on the guitar and the specific pickup you have, so experiances vary I'm sure but I'm sold on the SL. Im gonna replace the pickups in mynew Epi SG eventually and really, really want an old unpotted PAF. Discussion in 'The Tone Zone' started by Crawford354, Aug 13, 2013. × my BB3 in bridge position is far better suited for insane shred. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. not sure if you can believe gibson's specs. The Hamer is the "chambered" one (I refuse to refer to it as semi-hollow) with e F-hole, and the Paul is a 2006, so it's weight relieved & not chambered. He is most famous for developing the Gibson humbucker or hum-cancelling electric stringed instrument pickup, most often used on the electric guitar Life and career. Washburn J600 05-30-2018, 02:24 PM #17. © 1995-2019 Harmony Central, Inc. All rights reserved. I like the Burstbucker 1 also. I really like the BB1 & 2 but haven't compared it to the SLs yet. I just picked up a 2005 Les Paul Standard Faded. I used to have Burstbuckers. Crawford354 New Member. Product Specs. Dismalhead Poster Extraordinaire. Joined: Nov 25, 2013 Messages: 42 Likes Received: 1. this is probably a long shot, but has anyone been able to to A/B seth lovers or antiquities next to 5708's or 59/09's? A cursory search for specs didn't yield anything, so I'm really not sure just what the real differences are between the two pickups, besides the Seths not being potted. Thread Tools. 1 of 2 Go to page. lespaul01 Banned. SO Ive narrowed it down to either Gibby Burstbuckers, or SD Seth Lovers. dkbarnwell Senior Member . Paste as plain text instead, × Messages 642. I like the pickups, but I really want a pickup with a bit more flexibility, less treble harshness. Seth Lovers are the original PAF that all others are based on. in the same guitar? Which ones captures a better PAF tone? Burstbucker Pros. That's the only used listing we have right now. Seymour Duncan - Seth Lover vs '59 neck humbuckers Discussion in 'Just Pickups' started by Lefty Addams, Apr 19, 2017. The Seth Lovers end up on many guitarists' fave pickup lists. They come in both neck and bridge models, so you can get a nicely calibrated set if you’d like. Seth Lovers sound like a humbucker is supposed to sound like. My Les Paul has a BB3 in the bridge, and it's a pretty smooth pickup.   Pasted as rich text. We're talking 1970s rock tone. For neck pickups, I really like all three, the 57 Classic, the Seth Lover and the BB1. I have some Burstbucker PROs in some of my Epiphone Les Pauls. © 1995-2019 Harmony Central, Inc. All rights reserved. You can post now and register later. Now the assembly sits idle because I've put a different pickup in. Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > Apr 19, 2017 #1. Would the bridge of the Seth be too bright? View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Articles Member User Info Menu. What guitar is this pickup going into? Followers 0. I’ve tried a lot of pickups (57 classics, burstbucker pro, dirty fingers, dimarzios, Lace sensors and a lot of P.A.F. My burstbucker 1 is 7.5k and it's also wax potted which goes against their literature. View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message User Info Menu. The 57s are all about smooth, the BBs are more about getting kind of aggressive and the Seth Lovers sort of split the difference. I bought some limited edition anniversary engraved version of the Seth Lovers to put into my '83 Gibson Custom Shop Edition Les Paul Studio. 9. Powered by Invision Community. because I think the BB pros are harsh, and I want something good for classic rock , think Free, … I also have the Epi JB LP on order with a 2 & 3 combo, but it's just a pre-order so there is "mind changing time" left on that one. Show Printable Version; Email this Page… 14-01-09, 10:48 PM #21. dudelove. × Burstbucker Pro vs. Seth Lover Sign in to follow this . For whatever it's worth..... here are some of my Burstbucker PRO clips: You can post now and register later. Go. Upload or insert images from URL.   Pasted as rich text. Sell One Like This; Listings Price Guide. Be the first to know when more are listed: Follow this Product.   You cannot paste images directly. That's been my impression of the BB3 as well, but yet they put it in such guitars as the Tak Matsumoto, Gary Moore and Joe Bonamassa and those guys aren't known for that kind of tone, they are fairly smooth sounding higher gain players. It seems like it reaponds more to technique. The B6 has a metal cover. Upload or insert images from URL. I think of the BB3 sort of like the Super Distortion. BB1 and 2 are manageable at stage volume, but my BB3 in bridge position is far better suited for insane shred. The Pro Lead has 5300 on the screw side and 5500 on the slugs. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. × The BB1 is the lowest output of the three by a little bit. However, I have a SL neck PU in my LP Studio and it's never squealed no matter how much gain I've thrown at it. The distortion characteristics through the Marshall with the Seth Lover were similar to the number 2 Burstbucker in smoothness, but without the added bottom end of the Gibson. The BB sounded good but it always sounded the same to me. Attempting to verbally describe the difference in sound which these differences give rise to is a hilarious business. Musical, I suppose. Gibson. For bridge pickups, I've never been happier than with my Seth Lover.   Your previous content has been restored. My take is that comparing the a 57 Classic to a Seth Lover to a Burstbucker 2 is they get more aggressive as you go in that order. I've had to have one Seth Lover re-wound and I made the mistake of wiring a guard for another one that has efficiency problems. PLEASE SUBSCRIBE!I have been wanting to do a video like this one for a long time. I'm probably in the minority here, but I prefer the 57 to the Seth Lover. Pickup choice confusion is grand ain't it. The BB had more honk than I like. Originally Posted by teleplayer. The Bursbucker Pro Rhythm pickup has 5000 winds on the screw side, and 5200 on the slug side. Also +1 on the burstbucker. Gallery. Finish: Aged Nickel . Oct 3, 2011 #1 Hey Folks, What's the difference between these sets of pups? Not muddy. My brain is going around in circles trying to decide which of these would be best to replace the Japanese pick-ups in my Orville 335. The Seth Lover is a true and true vintage humbucker. duncan seth lover/antiquity vs 5708/5909 vs burstbuckers. Reviews. And they are still made exactly the same way they were made in 1958. The pickups on the Classic are uncovered which I would think would make some difference, but both sets have Alnico 5 magnets.   Your link has been automatically embedded. Reverb drenched clean demo of Gibson Burstbucker Pro neck (2007), Dimarzio Air Classic DP190, Seymour Duncan SH-55 Seth Lover, ESP LTD EC-256. 1 of 2 Go to page. The first humbucker was the PAF by Seth Lover (the PAF was named by the "patent applied for" pickerl on the underside), and it was found not only on the legendary Gibson guitars such as the Les Paul, SG , ES series, but also on the exotics like the Flying V or Explorer. Joined Mar 12, 2011 Messages 16,929 Reaction … Burstbucker Pro vs. Seth Lover. Which ones captures a better PAF tone? Seth E. Lover (January 1, 1910 in Kalamazoo, Michigan – January 31, 1997 in Garden Grove, California) was a designer of amplifiers and musical instrument electronics and effects. I picked up a Gibson Midtown the other day. Display as a link instead, × Lefty Addams Tele-Afflicted. It comes in chrome, gold, or black, all metal. Seymour Duncan bought the winding machine when Gibson moved from the Kalamazoo plant. Burstbucker Pros vs Burstbucker #1 & #2. Just beautiful sounding. I interviewed Seth Lover in 1992 for The Les Paul Book, my first book about Gibson's various Les Paul models, and our conversation focused on the humbucking pickup.Seth (1910–1997) devised the "Patent Applied For" humbucker at Gibson in the mid-'50s, and for that alone he was near the top of my list of people to track down, although his achievements were many, not only at Gibson but … But if I had a guitar with it, I think I'd just keep the volume rolled off a hair, but without knob tweaking, it's certainly more oriented towards hard driving rock than smooth jazz. © 1995-2019 Harmony Central, Inc. All rights reserved. For the neck position, I found the Seth Lover has a better balance of lows and also wasn’t overbearing. © 1995-2019 Harmony Central, Inc. All rights reserved. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. They do have some biting highs which can be a little much at times...... but I simply back off the guitar volume a notch or two and it's super warm. IDK, I get some really tasty distortion leads with it. Im gonna replace the pickups in mynew Epi SG eventually and really, really want an old unpotted PAF. The Antiquities for example are supposed to sound even a bit better, and they might fit the aged look better, and the BB 1 & 2 might fit a vintage tone a hair better. Now I have Seth Lovers. Just like the original 1955 P.A.F.s, the SH-55 utilizes a nickel silver bottom plate, butyrate plastic bobbins; plain enamel wire, an Alnico bar magnet, a wooden spacer, and black paper tape. So I'm starting to consider putting the Seth Lovers in it when it arrives and then maybe buying some Seymour Duncan Antiquites or a BB1 & 2 combo and putting them into the '83 CSE Studio. Any 335 players out there using these pickups? I have guitars with both and prefer the Seth Lovers. Gibson Burstbucker 1 and 2 Pickup Set 2012. View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message User Info Menu. Hi - speccing up a G&S Classic Bluesboy Tele at present with a humbucker in the neck and undecided about which of the SD buckers, these two are … Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. The first humbucker was the PAF by Seth Lover (the PAF was named by the "patent applied for" pickerl on the underside), and it was found not only on the legendary Gibson guitars such as the Les Paul, SG , ES series, but also on the exotics like the Flying V or Explorer. Page 2 of 2 < Prev 1 2. Not familiar with the Seth Lover, but my stock 490R crapped out on my SG recently and I put in a SD '59. Brand: Gibson; Model: Burstbucker 1 and 2 Pickup Set. Any guitar today that uses two coils in the same housing wired to get rid of the hum associated with single coil pickups owes a bit of thanks to the original pioneer of pickup design, Seth Lover. Seymour Duncan SH55 Seth Lover Humbucker The SH-55 was designed jointly by Seymour and humbucker inventor Seth Lover. The Seth Lover Set is the perfect choice for players wanting to transform a solid body or semi hollow into a singing classic rock machine. Follow this Product. Looking for sparkle and a hollow/open tone. Joined Aug 15, 2009 Messages 120 Reaction score 11. Seth Lover VS. Antiquity. Aug 31, 2013 #1 This thread is in response to an earlier thread I posted regarding pickup choices for my 2005 SG. By elephantman, August 17, 2007 in Electric Guitars. Joined: Feb 16, 2014 Location: Antelope, California. Age: 57 Posts: 7,518. My LP standard has much more girth & depth to its tone, and I'm wondering how much of this difference can be attributed to the pickups, & how much to the build of the guitars. Which do you like better? Thread Tools. The two coils are unbalanced, by a calculated degree to give rise to a little more attack; The magnet itself is an Alnico 5, which is the same only a little stronger than the Alnico II featured in the ’57 Classic; The Difference: In Words.   Your previous content has been restored. Parts. Because they're not wax-potted, the SL's have a lot more open clean sound, but they have been known to squeal under high gain. Seymour Duncan - Seth Lover vs '59 neck humbuckers Discussion in 'Just Pickups' started by Lefty Addams, Apr 19, 2017. But I have no experience with Seth Lovers. February 2014 in Guitar. The SH-55 Seth Lover model is Seymour Duncan’s tribute to the father of the humbucking pickup.   Your link has been automatically embedded. 2 cents, please. His response was that the ’57 Classic is made to Seth Lover’s original specifications, to the exact letter. 02-04-2016, 09:19 PM #13. jzucker. Good question and it deserve a good answer but I can only provide a half-assed answer since I only have one guitar with the BB Pros and haven't gotten my Seth Lovers that I purchased 1.5 years ago installed yet. Originally Posted by sgosnell. Well. Of course, with modern distortion, it gets all nice and round. The difference is in the number of turns for the winding.
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